Enough to merit study.
Didn’t mean to frighten. Saturn rules the 6th.
Saturn is in Hayz, and more than that, in a Masculine Bright Degree, plus in a Masculine Quarter.
Saturn is highly competent —- 110% competent — to perform the task it has been given.
Saturn would be Besieged by Benefics, but Mars breaks that with is rays. The Rx Mars/Saturn opposition is the only thing that would impede Saturn, who is fine in his own Triplicity.
Just today alone I’ve read in the same book conflicting views on if the Moon should be considered in a day chart. It looks like Ptolemy and Bonatti and Abu’Ali allowed for it. Indeed, even my software gives high certainty that Moon is predominator. Honestly I haven’t been invested enough to learn and test all the methods.
I don’t trust the software. Solarfire incorrectly calculates the Hyleg in my chart.
I’ve been puzzling over that one. Because Moon is in the descendant in a masculine sign and beseiged?
The Ascending Degree and Midheaven are “visible,” but the IC and Descending Degree are not. Just as the Ascendant Point/Degree is Life, the Descendant Point/Degree is the opposite of life. And to clarify, we’re not talking about the 7th Sign or 7th House, rather the actual Descending Degree.
Aquarius is a Sign of Short Ascension (from Capricorn to Gemini) and Planets or Points in Quadrant II moving to the Descendant Point move very fast, much faster than Signs of Long Ascension.
I would like to make sure I understand. If we use LoF, don’t we then need the planet that has most dignity in the degree of Lot of Fortune and is in aspect? Because yes, Saturn has the most dignity where Lot of Fortune is. Saturn trumps all the other planets for dignity in all the hylegical places and comes out as Almuten of the chart. So LoF as hyleg and Saturn as alcocoden?
There’s a lot of confusion with that.
Bonatti’s method comes via the Arabs/Persians, and Ptolemy’s method is something else entirely.
The theory behind Ptolemy’s method (which isn’t even his), is based on the connection to Life.
So we have to take off all of our Astro-Hats and Astro-Glasses and put on our Astro-Life/Death Hat and Astro-Life/Death Glasses (I don’t think Ray-Ban or Versace make any special frames for those).
Below Earth is Death, Above Earth is Life, and so Hyleg can only be Above Earth.
Hyleg must be in Sign Aspect to the Ascendant to establish a connection with Life, so that rules out the 8th and 12th Signs, which even though Above Earth are in aversion to the Ascendant.
Life is also represented by the Sect Light, so in a Day Chart, that is Sun.
Effectively, in a Day Chart, you take Sun and any Planet except Moon (which is actually a Light) that is in the 7th, 9th, 10th or 11th Signs, and they are candidates to be Hyleg.
Now you score them, even though it appears that Ptolemy seems to suggest that Sun is automatically Hyleg in a Day Chart if situated in 7th, 9th, 10th or 11th Houses.
Scoring is by Dignity in the Ascendant, Sun and Longitude of the last pre-Natal Moon (Full or New).
People err here, because they use a weighted scoring system like Lily’s. It’s just one point per Dignity — Domicile Ruler, Exaltation Ruler, Triplicity Ruler, Bound Ruler and Decan Ruler.
It is unclear if Ptolemy uses the Sect Triplicity Ruler or not, meaning in a Day Chart Sun is Sect Triplicity Ruler for Fire….so ignore the Night Ruler (Jupiter in Ptolemy’s Ptriplcity Scheme).
I use Dorothean Triplicities, and use the Sect Triplicity Ruler and Participating Ruler with stellar results so far (ignoring the non-Sect Triplicity Ruler).
1 point each.
In the chart you have, Moon is not the Sect Light, Sun is in the 12th, so that leaves Mercury, Venus, Jupiter and Saturn as Hyleg candidates.
Ascending Degree (4° Leo):
Mercury: 0
Venus: 0
Jupiter: 1 (Bound Ruler)
Saturn: 1 (Joint Fire Triplicity Ruler)
Sun (15° Cancer):
Mercury: 1 (Face Ruler) + 1 (Bound Ruler) [2]
Venus: 1 (Triplicity Ruler) [1]
Jupiter: 1 (Exaltation Ruler) [2]
Saturn: 0 [1]
Pre-Natal Full Moon (13° Capricorn)
Mercury: 0 [2]
Venus: 1 (Triplicity Ruler) [2]
Jupiter: 1 (Bound Ruler) [3]
Saturn: 1 (Domicile Ruler) [3]
So we have a tie between Jupiter and Saturn.
Both sextile the Ascendant. Both are in Hayz. Neither are Combust or Retrograde. Jupiter is Peregrine, Saturn is not. Jupiter is in Detriment, Saturn is in his own Triplicity. Saturn is in a Diurnal Air Sign — Hot & Moist — which tempers his nature — Cold & Dry. Saturn is Oriental of Sun.
Saturn is Hyleg.
Sun’s antiscion is at 15* Gemini. Hardly anyone uses antiscia. Do you read it the same as you would if the Sun were actually at 15* Gemini, except that obviously those planets would still be free from the beams?
Antiscia is kind of like a passive Transfer of Light.
We already established that the pre-Natal Moon was a Full Moon at 13° Capricorn. There was also a partial Eclipse two days prior to birth at 13° Capricorn. You have Retrograde Mars casting his shadow at 13° Capricorn.
Contra-antiscia are bad, and Mars casts his at 13° Cancer, and likewise Sun casts his at 14° Sagittarius.
1st and 12th House Lots.
A couple of other things to help you….
Moon and Alpheratz rose together at 9:44 PM
Betelgeuse is with Jupiter at 28° Gemini
Part of Spirit sits at 14° Capricorn.
That Mars/Saturn opposition never perfects. About 12 days later Mars goes On-Station.
