Thanks, I think this may be the information I was looking for when I started this thread.
So, from what I’m hearing, a malefic in its domicile could have more power to act in a malefic way, but that mostly happens if it’s out of sect. So if the malefic planet is actually in sect and domicile, then it could actually bring benefits to the native?
That would make sense now why I’ve heard it both ways. Because they’re considering a factor outside of standard dignities and debilities, and the concept of a malefic vs. benefic planet, to decide how the planet will behave in a given chart. That is, the concept of sect that would rarely if ever be considered in non-traditional astrology, even by those who consider dignity and debility.
Yep, I don’t go by modern astrology, and this is a Traditional board anyways. You right, IF you are a Night chart which Mars is your In Sect, then with a strong Mars, Mars will be benefic for you. Night chart, Mars is your “Malefic in Favor”.
Now if you are Daychart, Mars is the Out of Sect Greatest Malefic, and Mars is strong, Mars has all the resource to trouble your chart.
Let me show you this chart, pay attention to what it say, Malefic in Favor, and Most Malefic planet. I use Hellenistic software.
You see where it say Malefic in Favor: Saturn
And it say Most Malefic planet; Mars
This is a Daychart. Mars is NOT your friend.
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The dispositor tree, everything is loop back to the Domicile Mars, so Mars has the most say in this chart. Scorpio Mars Trine Cancer Asncedant and Mars has Triplicity he is in his own home sign.
Also because Air sign Moon is Aversion to Cancer Ascendant, Air sign Venus also Aversion to Cancer Ascendant. Aversion, they don’t see each others.
Air sign do NOT see Water sign Ascendant. However Scorpio Mars can, Mars is the Triplicity Lord of the Ascendant.
Mars is stronger as he spin Direct and Domicile, Saturn spin Retrograde so weaker, and Saturn is rule by Mars. The Lord of Geniture is Mars too.
Mars Trine Sun, Mars Trine Mercury.
Mars abuse Venus very bad, Mars overcome Venus by being in 5th house rise before Venus 8th house, Mars Square Venus exactly 0 orb.
Saturn is weaker in the chart due to being Retrograde, but I don’t think it make Saturn more evil than Mars. As you can see it said Most Malefic Out of Sect is Mars, not Saturn.
An Hellenistic astrologer told me, Saturn is not well place compared to Mars, but it does not make Saturn worser than Mars, because Mars is still the Out of Sect MOST Malefic planet, period.
And you see in this Traditional chart, Jupiter cast a Sextile to Saturn, Jupiter is a benefic. Saturn is under the horizon BUT Saturn TRINE Sun, Saturn can see the Sun very well. Well Mars Trine Sun too.
But that is a Sextile of Jupiter and Saturn. Sorry, Mars is still worst in this chart.
But I will say this, this person is quite lucky, this is an abuser chart, a very controlling and VERY ABUSIVE person chart, but something in the chart keep protect and keep save this person butt time after time. This person should have go to jail already for being abusive if it weren’t for something in this chart keep save this person butt.
